Does politics belong behind the church pulpit? One pastor says rarely, especially if you're from a border town with a racially mixed congregation.
New Seasons Church in the greater San Diego area has six campuses connected by satellite, including an Arabic church and a Spanish church.
Needless to say, there is more than one political perspective in the church.
Pastor and Bishop A.B. Vines tells OneNewsNow he doesn't endorse candidates and rarely gets political from the pulpit.
"I try my best to stay scriptural messages and not get into the mud of the political parties, political situations," he says. "It's really muddy and it's messy right now."
He adds, however, that he's not afraid to hit scriptural issues that may be found in political circles. He preaches that life is sacred from the moment of conception to natural death. He spends a whole month preaching about marriage – the biblical version of that.
But the Bible is not silent about other issues as well. Being in San Diego, where the state has the largest population of illegal aliens in the country, immigration is at the top of that list.
"That's a difficult situation," he says. "You can't break a law then be right…You can't come in illegally and then expect to be right when you do something illegally."
The pastor's advice, he says, is to "get it done right" through legal channels such as a student visa.
And on occasion when Vines breaks his own rules about politics from the pulpit, such as a pro-life Supreme Court justice seated on the nation's high court, he will speak up.
"When our president is right, I celebrate it," he says. "When our president is wrong, I speak prophetically."